tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post412973352337960584..comments2023-11-29T09:02:41.478+00:00Comments on Flies in your Teeth: Good rider aids, or utter lunacy?Gary Francehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05163380727432573785noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-62066275431755184732014-03-02T18:45:47.058+00:002014-03-02T18:45:47.058+00:00Somehow I missed this post, but here's my 2cen...Somehow I missed this post, but here's my 2cents. As a relatively new rider of 3 years there is absolutely no way I would want one of these. There are already enough distractions on the road and I al already processing information quickly. I think I would like GPS in a audio format - but no maps popping up in my visor. I think there are going to be road blocks for this technology where I live because they are looking at the laws for distracted driving and technology, I think this would be considered a distracts lie device. As for Scully guy if he can't even manage thr road space around him when he us looking at a road sign & piles into a car maybe he should hang up the keys. The thought if him driving and not paying attention to the road environment and paying more attention to what is being projected onto a visor display is a very scary scenario particularly if he is sharing my road space.Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-78606063707650152252014-01-12T00:19:47.162+00:002014-01-12T00:19:47.162+00:00where i live in the green mountains of vermont, us...where i live in the green mountains of vermont, usa; we can't even get reliable cell phone signal, gps mapping constantly misdirects travellers to the 'ancient roads' which are now seasonal snow machine trails (i know because we have rescued several lost travellers on our farm). I would not dare depend on this technology. A current map and savvy local citizen is the best bet in our neck of the woods.resahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04455446030439038749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-12097552496534494152013-11-25T18:11:41.339+00:002013-11-25T18:11:41.339+00:00Ottawa Rider – The guy from Scully worries me grea...Ottawa Rider – The guy from Scully worries me greatly. Somehow the words ‘profit before safety’ come to mind. It was watching this video that really got me thinking about this subject and what he had to say had me very worried. I wouldn’t want him riding anywhere near me with all those distractions. The video was my worst nightmare about riding a motorcycle.<br /><br />Doug – I am technology obsessed, but not to this extend. GPS, yes. Phones, text, music, in-vision heads up, no way!<br /><br />Nick – he got distracted by looking at a friggin sign, and what’s worse, he admits it! You do however have a point Nick and yes, I agree I would want to try them out, but just to see what they are like. But would I be willing to actually buy one of these helmets to try it out? No. Would I want to risk a heck of a lot by even potentially being distracted while riding? Again, no. Would I want somebody riding behind me who was wearing one? No. Yes, I do use my phone in the car, but hands-free only. It is a big stretch to compare using a hands-free phone to these distractions though.<br />Gary Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163380727432573785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-55622139811293209152013-11-25T18:00:41.369+00:002013-11-25T18:00:41.369+00:00Axel – Yes, open faced helmets would present a pro...Axel – Yes, open faced helmets would present a problem to this technology. It is interesting what you say about the potential for banning even hands-free phones in cars. I read an article about that today, but I cannot see that happening. Some do believe that sat navs shoud be banned. See http://bit.ly/1apJcrZ<br /><br />Trobairitz – You make some very sensible points here. There are already enough distractions, let alone introducing more. As for having to changing your focal point through having to refocus, I have read this is not the case, as the HUD images are aligned with a distant focal point to make refocusing un-necessary. I suspect you are spot about pilots and training. The only training a rider would get is how to turn it on and I suspect nearly everyone would want to get on their bikes straight away to test it out.<br /><br />Sonja – That is going to be the main point with many people – “Isn't one purpose of riding to get away from the "being online at all times"” is absolutely right – riding can be a pure joy with just your thoughts to accompany you.<br />Gary Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163380727432573785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-16841502772487124412013-11-25T17:45:34.400+00:002013-11-25T17:45:34.400+00:00Biker Baby – I do use the audio part of my gps som...Biker Baby – I do use the audio part of my gps sometimes, but I find I do also need to look at the screen for confirmation of where to turn etc. I agree that the rest are too distracting.<br /><br />AHD – LOL. I love the bit about your new rider aid. There are a lot of people like you who prefer the straightforward paper maps approach. I think there is a place for some technology to accompany maps (I use both) but for these helmets take things way too far. I can imagine them getting banned in Europe for being too distracting. <br /><br />Chiller tek – I agree, something simple like that could be good.<br /><br />Canajun – I 100% agree with what you have said. I didn’t think about the passenger part, so that is an excellent point. If somebody really needed to have all these gadgets, they probably wouldn’t have any passengers anyway.<br />Gary Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163380727432573785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-87343590309329369142013-11-25T17:36:34.361+00:002013-11-25T17:36:34.361+00:00Nikos – I sort of agree. Electronic ignition has ...Nikos – I sort of agree. Electronic ignition has helped a lot too.<br /><br />Bob – I think you are on the right lines. Too much information when riding will certainly be a distraction, but making other data available when stopped might be okay.<br /><br />Richard – I agree, the rear view camera view is a waste of time and money. Bearing in mind the rear view will change as you move your head, I am sure people will be riding along looking at the rear view and moving their heads to get a better view. That is just silly.<br /><br />Robert – You are certainly right about the price taking it out of range of a lot of people. The problem I have with gps in the helmet is we have it already on easy to read screen just in front of us mounted near the handlebars. You don’t tend to look at the screen for too long to be able to understand how far to the next turn, where you need to go etc. If you can easily do that on a (relatively) cheap gps unit, why would you want to complicate things and include it in your helmet?<br />Gary Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05163380727432573785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-3510409356710207092013-11-24T09:59:21.677+00:002013-11-24T09:59:21.677+00:00I'd love to try it/them out! Come on Gary, get...I'd love to try it/them out! Come on Gary, get with the future..<br /><br />Do you use your phone connected in your car - yes of course I know you do as I have had conversation with you like it. Whats the difference bike / car? As the person in control you know when you need to pay more attention to one thing that the other but I'm sure the small rear screen in the right hand corner would be got used to pretty quickly. <br /><br />Consider the 'looking down at instructions on a tank' moment - that has more potential for trouble than what the chap says about looking at a road sign albeit clearly he couldnt have been much kop as a rider.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01771466799340693454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-68580098721906413672013-11-23T03:41:23.824+00:002013-11-23T03:41:23.824+00:00I occasionally use a GPS when riding and find it h...I occasionally use a GPS when riding and find it handy but still a bit distracting. Beyond a GPS I don't see much need for lots of other techno-input on a bike but then I'm not a younger, technology obsessed rider. Doug Klassenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16120274946344780566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-4543689836558172522013-11-23T02:30:54.463+00:002013-11-23T02:30:54.463+00:00For the Scully, he says it will enhance our senses...For the Scully, he says it will enhance our senses...<br /><br />How does playing music "enhance" our senses? It just makes us more unlikely to hear a honk or a horrendous accident happening beside you!<br /><br />I would love to listen to music as a ride but I am always too worried it will be a distraction and keep me from being safe.Ottawa Riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15167123313900081084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-64361691933689885462013-11-21T17:45:06.819+00:002013-11-21T17:45:06.819+00:00I am very low tech on my bike, except for the occa...I am very low tech on my bike, except for the occasional use of a GPS in unknown territory when scootering. No GPS on my Harley though, I use old fashioned maps when I travel with my Sporty. <br />Anyway I love to ride with all senses. Isn't one purpose of riding to get away from the "being online at all times". Thanks for the heads-up, but I am not going to buy this. +1 what Nikos quoted.SonjaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389245948579828531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-33567145493670014052013-11-21T16:20:49.407+00:002013-11-21T16:20:49.407+00:00My first reaction would be: Do we really need mor...My first reaction would be: Do we really need more distractions? It is hard enough to dodge the distracted drivers out there, but I'd hate to add distracted motorcyclists into the mix.<br /><br />The HUD in the visor seems short sighted to me. As in you take your view off the road to look closer. Would it be akin to looking at the rain on your visor instead of looking beyond it? ie changing your focal point.....<br /><br />It is interesting that Canajun points out the technology has been used by pilots. Me thinks they have a lot more training on the devices and on a continual basis than the average Joe/Jane on two wheels would.<br /><br />Just my two cents.Trobairitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03453398807198746434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-63778949741957293282013-11-21T15:57:44.939+00:002013-11-21T15:57:44.939+00:00Utter nonsense, and dangerous. While I think that ...Utter nonsense, and dangerous. While I think that the safety benefits of a SatNav can outweight its dangers (less U-turns or sudden stops/turnings vs distraction),and its clearer then a beermat on the fueltank :), there is some merit in the actual discussion on banning even hands-free phonetalk in the car. As we ride open face most of the time, no temptation anyway.Axelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417449196759841872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-24101690584337706842013-11-21T12:44:59.766+00:002013-11-21T12:44:59.766+00:00I'm of two minds on these new 'advances...I'm of two minds on these new 'advances' in helmets. First of all heads-up displays have been used by pilots for decades now, and if flying at Mach 2 doesn't require your full concentration I don't know what does. So I think there's some value there. What I don't like is they have become too gimmicky, not only providing basic operating metrics (speed, RPM)and navigation information but also the texting, cell phone, and rear view camera capabilities. That's where information overload really becomes problematic. I see lawsuits on the horizon.<br />(As an aside, how good is a rear view camera if you are carrying a passenger?)Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-25094739824245835822013-11-21T08:00:10.387+00:002013-11-21T08:00:10.387+00:00I'd like to have my speed imprint on my visor,...I'd like to have my speed imprint on my visor, that could useful Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10160712689280276620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-37169839764429637462013-11-21T06:58:02.535+00:002013-11-21T06:58:02.535+00:00My new rider aid is a 2013 Atlas.
Yes, I have a c...My new rider aid is a 2013 Atlas.<br /><br />Yes, I have a cell phone, even though it is a dumb one now that I am retired. Plus I would never leave home without my computer.<br /><br />I can NOT text and drive, forget about riding. Once on the road technology isn't part of my equation. I really am old school and paper maps are the order of my day! Learning to Golfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03184277358166730368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-37708382322493881192013-11-21T04:29:24.128+00:002013-11-21T04:29:24.128+00:00I wouldn't mind trying GPS if it was only audi...I wouldn't mind trying GPS if it was only audio and not visual. I prefer to keep my eyes on where I am going and on things around me. As for the rest of the features...too distracting.biker babyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472957923070962416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-58904192256192461182013-11-21T03:10:31.095+00:002013-11-21T03:10:31.095+00:00To a certain extent I can see using GPS, although ...To a certain extent I can see using GPS, although the other things I agree with you 100% on. <br /><br />Luckily these helmets will be priced out of most people price ranges for the time being...the problem with technology is that it never stops to let our poor minds catch up to it.<br /><br />The City Mouse in the Countryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06522133156580411938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-47602017690492963932013-11-20T23:38:25.603+00:002013-11-20T23:38:25.603+00:00I'm not sure that it is complete lunacy but as...I'm not sure that it is complete lunacy but as depicted in the video, a complete distraction. HUD has been successfully used for years and I think there are some basic design principles being violated with these designs. Things like the rear view camera are way too distracting. Much more so than a rear view mirror than you can see around. In these implementations, it blocks your view. RichardMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773834892715980735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-81394260184507934292013-11-20T22:28:05.968+00:002013-11-20T22:28:05.968+00:00Gary:
without looking at the video (until I get h...<b>Gary:</b><br /><br />without looking at the video (until I get home) My first thought would be to develop a "Heads Up" display integrated into your windscreen at 50% opacity . . . sort of like what they put into cars but only data you need to see whilst riding. Like MPH, perhaps RPM and temp gauge. For other functions they should only enable when you are going ZERO MPH:;<br /><br />that's only my first thought. I may think of more things later<br /><br />bob<br /><a href="http://www.wetcoastscootin.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Riding the Wet Coast</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3505434595026982929.post-4161641590691080352013-11-20T21:46:50.384+00:002013-11-20T21:46:50.384+00:00The ubiquitous journalist and author LJK Set right...The ubiquitous journalist and author LJK Set right once wrote the only useful significant technical advance in motorcycle technology was the electric starter. I agree.Nikoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119901226987582553noreply@blogger.com